Does anybody actually like Hillary Clinton?

Post by **faceless** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:09 pm

I see that Clinton won these elections in Ohio and Texas. Does anyone know why? She comes across as a completely ruthless and untrustworthy person and I can't imagine for a minute anyone actually being impressed by her. So why has she beaten Obama?

maycm · Post by **maycm** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:47 pm

Well, IMHO, a percentage of people see voting for a woman as a positive thing, coupled with those who liked Bill, and those who for whatever reason, do not wish to see a black president.

The policies got left behind a long time ago. Since when did American politics have anything to do with policies?

Marcella-FL · Post by **Marcella-FL** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:00 pm

I like her. As Tina Fey on SNL (2/23) said "Bitches get things done!"

I'm not opposed to Obama though ... just HATE republican candidates.

Post by **Skylace** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:08 pm

I like her as well Marcella. She also has more experience than Obama and that is one reason I would vote for her over him. I like Obama, but I just don't think he has the experience yet.
Hillary to me comes across as a tough woman, who gets things done. She is going to have to be tough when it comes to getting things done. I don't find her untrustworthy at all, at least no more than a regular politician.

Post by **faceless** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:13 pm

ah well, don't say you weren't warned!

But I suppose as long as they don't invade any other countries I don't really care who is president.

Aja · Post by **Aja** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:26 pm

I cant stand her ........She reaks of Thatcher to me

I do Like Obama.... A lot ......

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:39 pm

I adore Obama.

Clinton is, in my opinion, a charisma vaccuum. I bet shaking her hand would be like fondling a cold fish.

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:40 pm

obamas the least worst ...

whats your new pic nekokate?

RaulRipp · Post by **RaulRipp** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:05 pm

I don't really get the whole experience thing? I think it was on the Real Deal that I heard her 'experience' described best. Just because she was married to a president it doesn't mean that she'll make a good president. It's like saying you'll make a good brain surgeon because you're married to one...you may have seen the video below, not sure if its been posted before, but I think it says a great deal about her character.

It's in 2 parts.

Part 1

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Part 2

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Ash · Post by **Ash** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:26 pm

Hillary v Obama

Obama, if I have to- sort of a 'lesser evil' selection methodology

Post by **Skylace** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:21 am

RaulRipp wrote:I don't really get the whole experience thing? I think it was on the Real Deal that I heard her 'experience' described best. Just because she was married to a president it doesn't mean that she'll make a good president.

It has nothing to do with her experience as First Lady. It has to do with her experience in the world of politics, business and time in office herself. She has worked in politics (not just in her elected office) a lot longer than Obama. And there is certain maturity that comes with age.

If she doesn't get it, I won't disappointed, or shocked. It's not like either one of them is a bad choice to have overall. In all honesty, both of them were NOT the one I wanted to have come this far, but I knew Richardson didn't have a snowballs chance in hell. But right now my choice is her.

I am actually more interested at this point on who is going to be picked as the running mate as I see both Clinton and Obama to be cut from pretty much the same cloth. I think which ever one ends up in office it will be pretty much the same turn out. However, the VP will be interesting to see.

SpursFan1902 · Post by **SpursFan1902** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:37 am

I like her. It was a toss up between Hilary and Obama and when it came to the final moment, I went with Hilary. I just feel like she has a little more knowledge of how to get things done. I, like others have mentioned, am happy with either - Republicans need not apply -- She's not perfect, she is a politician. We are moving into unchartered territory with either of them...very exciting!

radiomanpj · Post by **radiomanpj** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:16 am

Republican Candidate John McCain's camp is hoping that Hillary gets the nomination. They know that in a contest against Obama, they stand no chance of winning.

Post by **faceless** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:51 pm

that makes sense PJ. Obama will destroy him given the chance.

The idea of 'they've got no experience so don't vote for them' was the fear-tactic that the Conservatives here used to instill fear and uncertainty in MOR voters during the 80s and 90s. The president doesn't actually do anything off their own back, unless he changes the laws to allow it, so they don't need experience as such - which is why they have the civil service and corporate advisors.

Post by **eefanincan** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:44 pm

I'm personally not fond of either of them, but I somehow walk away with the feeling that Clinton is "acting nice" and putting on a show a lot of the time (but that's politics, isn't it?)--- I can't stand fakeness. That being said, I do think Clinton could do the job and do it well. I'm guessing we're going to see an Obama/Clinton ticket with Obama running for president and Clinton for VP.

And I'm going to go out on a limb here-- I think it might be a close election between McCain and them with McCain possibly edging them out. I'm not sure some of the "big boys" in politics are ready for a black or woman president, let alone a ticket that would see both of them in office at the same time.