Battle for the Holy Land - Channel 4

Salim201 · Post by **Salim201** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:38 pm

Is anyone watching this right now? I'm starting to get the impression its a little one-sided but perhaps i'm not following it properly. Its with Paddy Ashdown..

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat May 19, 2007 6:52 pm

I'm not watching it, but I'll probably grab it from 4OD in the next few days.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:07 pm

nekokate wrote:I'm not watching it, but I'll probably grab it from 4OD in the next few days.

FYI :

4oD - Channel 4's TV and Film on Demand service
Watch your favourite Channel 4 shows online with 4oD plus free 7 day catch up on many programmes.
https://www.channel4.com/4od/

Post by **faceless** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:15 pm

just turned over to watch - cheers salim

Ashdown seems to be looking at the injustice of the situation fairly.

DavidGig · Post by **DavidGig** » Sat May 19, 2007 7:23 pm

BTW, is the program you have to install to watch 4oD unobtrusive? (I've reached the point where I hate to install new things.)

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:27 pm

DavidGig wrote:BTW, is the program you have to install to watch 4oD unobtrusive? (I've reached the point where I hate to install new things.)

I wouldn't have a clue. All I know is I have it and it's changed nothing on my computer.

Salim201 · Post by **Salim201** » Sat May 19, 2007 9:48 pm

yeh, george just mentioned it on the show, as it went through i thought paddy did quite a good job. He made some good points about the counter-productivity of house demolitions and the 'wall', and that sows hate. good on 'im!

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:30 pm

I wish i had channel 4. I don't get C4 using my USB connected (DVB) TV Card.

If anyone is aware of any source where I can the main tv stream let me know. I'll do an encode and share it with all.

Oh, thanks for the info about the programme, 4oD, which i wasn't aware of.

- ash

Post by **faceless** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:43 pm

I don't think it will be repeated - though maybe on E4 I suppose.

Post by **faceless** » Tue May 22, 2007 1:32 pm

I managed to find a full-fat version of the programme, but it's 1.3gb so I'm converting it down - I'll upload it tonight...

Lostinthestates · Post by **Lostinthestates** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:13 pm

I had 4oD on my computer a while back. But when I tried to download shows it told me I had to be in the UK to use the service ...

Ash · Post by **Ash** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:31 pm

faceless wrote:I managed to find a full-fat version of the programme, but it's 1.3gb so I'm converting it down - I'll upload it tonight...

I think you're referring the 1.35 xvid.avi version that I also saw @ UKN. I've asked one of my friends to get it for me. If he doesn't, then i'll get it later.

Post by **faceless** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:48 pm

Here's a wmv version at 185mb - if anyone wants to give this link out feel free

https://www.sendspace.com/file/rzf05f

Salim201 · Post by **Salim201** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:11 am

did anyone watch the second part of the show with Rod Liddle, he's an "ardent supporter" of Israel but had his pre-conceptions changed throughout the show as he saw what was going on in the occupied territories, i think it was better than the paddy ashdown one, really insightful.

Post by **faceless** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:25 am

I'm just about finished watching the whole first programme now myself and I have to say that I recommend it highly to anyone. It explains so many facets of the Jewish/Arab situation in Jerusalem that I simply didn't understand before.

While this means that I understand the Jewish position better, it also emphasises my lack of support for those who think they should take things back just because their most ancient cultural (not necessarily genetic) predecessors may have been there.

The only way forward is through acceptance on both sides.

A great documentary.