George, it's the Real Deal! ( weekday television show )

Post by **faceless** » Mon May 21, 2007 10:43 pm

there's no way without getting your doo-dahs sorted...

If a copy doesn't turn up in the next few days then I could transfer the VHS if you were up for posting it though...

popinjay · Post by **popinjay** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:12 pm

There must be a better way than that. We can't do that forever. What do-dahs would I need?

Post by **faceless** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:30 pm

You can get a tv capture card for about 30-40 quid - you'd plug the Scart/svhs output from the video player into the computer... it's not something you can pick up in a couple of days though. But if you want to start a thread in the web-media section I'll go through it.

luke · Post by **luke** » Mon May 21, 2007 11:47 pm

faceless, would any of these do the job

https://www.cclonline.com/product-catego ... ory_id=247

they have some really cheap ones, but i don't really know what i'm looking for ...

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:43 am

Popinjay, your VHS recording may come in useful. Still hopeful version would provided via the producers or TV channel.

luke wrote:faceless, would any of these do the job

https://www.cclonline.com/product-catego ... ory_id=247

they have some really cheap ones, but i don't really know what i'm looking for ...

These could be useful if the show is on terrestrial Freeview (which I don't think it is).

I don't think Sky boxes have fire-wire output interface, otherwise a direct fire-wire link to a computer might have worked.

An alternative is to link audio/video out from your VCR to a computer, but not many computers have audio/video in.

I will mention one alternative : a digital VCR, which has an inbuilt hard disk, and which has an inbuilt CD or DVD drive. Unsure how well these compress the output, i.e. if any post-production is needed before uploading.

Post by **faceless** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:25 am

if anyone wants tech help ask in the correct section eh?

luke · Post by **luke** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:26 pm

tonights show

TONIGHT ON THE REAL DEAL

Tune in to The Real Deal with George Galloway this evening at 6pm on Sky 187 where he will becovering the crisis in Lebanon, Margaret Hodge's BNP ploy and a host of other issues.

i wish i could get sky without paying rupert murdoch a penny

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:48 pm

I am pressing the producers to torrent it ..

I recommended https://onebigtorrent.org

Any complaints about that ?

luke · Post by **luke** » Tue May 22, 2007 2:57 pm

how about chomsky torrents? isn't onebigtorrent still under development and just being tested by previous members at the moment? i guess if you added it to chomskytorrents then when the new site if officially launched they might just move stuff over ...

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:04 pm

Thanks Luke.

DavidGig · Post by **DavidGig** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:32 pm

Meanwhile, while folks work on better copies, there's a very low-res version of the May 21 show available from EvilGoblin--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L0ePL-brxw

It's just barely watchable, but it lets us see what the show is like.

Post by **faceless** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:48 pm

it's barely loading up for me - I see the first frame and by the looks of it, whoever did it filmed their tv with a video camera? I'm speechless if that's the case, but it's better than nothing to give it a look anyway... cheers

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:07 pm

Thanks for the link DavidGig.

Admittedly I'm only 5 minutes into it as I'm typing this, but I have to say that it looks pretty nondescript. I was hoping it would be more like a chatshow with a studio audience and some guests walking on and sitting on a couch.

It looks like they made it on a very limited budget and the production values and directorial cueing is terrible.

No offence to George, and I know Raj TV isn't exactly swimming in funding, but gad damn!

luke · Post by **luke** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:25 pm

thought some might be interested in this ... it appears you can get georges show without signing a contract with the devil [ murdoch ]

I will probably set up a FORUM page at some point in order to show people how simple and inexpensive it is to get and set up a so-called Free-to-Air(that also means free to watch...) satellite system(=non-SKY..no connection to Murdoch at all).
The British people are probably the most satellite-illiterate in Europe - most Brits have been easily hoodwinked over the past 15-20 years into believing that, by definition:
"Satellite TV = "SKY TV" = Murdoch dependency etc.
Yes, Al Jazeera´s FOUR - yes four - satellite channels are available "free to air" outside the "Sky platform", without SKY equipment or cards or subscriptions of any kind.
As is Galloway´s show - something which even Galloway doesn´t appear to understand.
So to is Democracy Now - as a radio broadcast at 16.00 Mon-Fri - although for a year or more(2004-6) it was actually broadcast as full free TV over Europe.
So: I recommend any of the 69 quid free-to-air receivers for example that are offered at https://www.satellitesuperstore.com/free.htm

They´re also very knowledgeable, keen to help and amongst the cheapest around. (I stress: I have no personal or business connection with this long-standing company whatsoever !)

You´ll also need an 80 cm round dish ...
and here´s my most important tip: ask for a
"0.3 LNB" (The LNB is the little signal-focusing horn that is stuck out in front of the dish on that protruding arm) You can find good 0.3 LNB´s for 12-15 quid here: https://www.satellitesuperstore.com/lnb.htm.

"0.3" is the "threshold" rating of the LNB - the lower the figure - eg 0.3 - the easier it is to pick up signals and the smaller the dish you´ll need.

I am typing this in my modest little abode in Spain: today I have watched Galloway, some Al Jazeera, listened to Democracy Now and enjoyed the Simpsons in German...
My entire system cost less than 100 pounds.
I pay no subscriptions at all.
In the UK I mounted my dish on a a parasol base and simply rotate the dish in order to access 3 different satellites.
My UK system cost even less - the free-to-air receiver cost 27 quid from LIDL (a "Potom SL65") and the 80 cm round dish cost 15 quid second hand from a TV/satellite installer.

All in all I can receive around 4000 non-SKY free TV channels and 1500 free radio channels - all digital. Admittedly the vast majority are not in English - but a moving picture speaks a thousand words etc - and I also do speak German as well as passable French, Spanish - so it helps to keep fluency alive.

Post by **faceless** » Wed May 23, 2007 9:42 pm

I'd actually been looking at buying a cheap satellite setup today, so cheers for that.