Seaman Faye Turney....

Colston · Post by **Colston** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:16 am

Was George not a tad harsh yesterday...

...not fit for purpose is one thing... but ...lard?

Comsatangel · Post by **Comsatangel** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:26 am

I am very, very uncomfortable with George criticising people on the basis of the way that they look, and this is happening with increasing frequency. Hazel Blears criticised because of her height, Ming Campbell made fun of because of his age, and now this. I'm afraid that it's comments like this, along with his comments on religion and his rather personal attacks on Richard Dawkins just because he wrote a book that George doesn't like the idea of, that make me want to switch off. Conversely, I am also becoming very concerned with some of the characters he seems to be endorsing on his show by giving them airtime.

Last week's show, where he had the bigot Stephen Green on, followed not long after by that raving idiot from Mediawatch, is a case in point. How could George not know that Green is a rampant homophobe who believes that people should be prosecuted for working on a Sunday? How could George not know that the real agenda of Mediawatch is the removal of everything from our screens that does not conform to their definition of what constitutes "family values" i.e. any portrayal of homosexuality, mixed race relationships, cohabitation, children born outside of marriage, abortion etc? I cannot believe that George is not aware that these people hold these extreme beliefs, but I am of the opinion that he chooses not to acknowledge this as the "media friendly" face of these bigots presents a set of values that George whloeheartedly endorses.

Even James Whale last night criticised George for his attack on Faye Turney, stating that George lets himself down when he crticises people on the basis of their appearance. He's right.

Colston · Post by **Colston** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:33 am

It is a shame when he is so articulate and principled in some areas.

However, no one is perfect, and forgiveness and tolerance works both ways.

Post by **faceless** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:34 am

Faye Turney's weight does deserve to be questionned when she's in a situation where fitness is so important (as it would for anyone else irrelevant of sex), but that doesn't mean I didn't find Galloway's comments to be over the top though.

Comsatangel · Post by **Comsatangel** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:42 am

But just because you are overweight it doesn't mean that you are not physically fit. I'm as thin as a whippet and a vegan to boot, but I'll bet Ms Turney could kick my ass on a cross country run.

Post by **faceless** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:48 am

But if you saw that she was fit you wouldn't even think about betting on that. All soldiers should be fit, not fat - that much I agree with.

Comsatangel · Post by **Comsatangel** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:09 am

Maybe so, but I think it's a bit of a myth that our armed services are finely honed killing machines. I was born, and grew up in Hereford, home of the SAS. Some of my family were in the SAS. There were several pubs which were deemed SAS pubs and I used to frequent one or two of them. Not a good idea, as I was a goth and found myself on the end of an SAS kicking on more than one occasion. But these men did not look like highly trained and skilled fighting machines. They looked like drunken, chainsmoking, vulgar thick as pig shite idiots whose main interests appeared to be other men's wives and girlfriends and starting fights with anyone who lokked a bit "different" ( and that included having different coloured skin.

Mind you, I wouldn't have said that to their faces!!

Post by **faceless** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:22 am

Comsatangel wrote:Mind you, I wouldn't have said that to their faces!!

haha yeah - perhaps best not to. I saw a thing about soldiers in some pub in Aldershot and they were stapling beermats to their own foreheads...

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:26 am

They could even be casts in Friends :

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British Sailors make The Daily Show. The Laughing Stock of the Seas

Quote :
"Very funny!

They'll never live this down and neither will the UK.

I bet they would've never imagined before being captured that three weeks later they'd be the butt of the joke on The Daily Show.

The Queen's Navy is officially the laughing stock of the seas."

Comsatangel · Post by **Comsatangel** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:30 am

Better that than stapling them to ther peoples' faces, I reckon!

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:40 pm

I wasn't impressed when he called her a fat lump that's not fit for purpose. For all he knows she might be able to run a mile and a half in 12 minutes.

I saw the full length pictures of her from The Sun and you could hardly call her a "fat lump"

Colston · Post by **Colston** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:22 pm

nekokate wrote:I wasn't impressed when he called her a fat lump that's not fit for purpose. For all he knows she might be able to run a mile and a half in 12 minutes.

I saw the full length pictures of her from The Sun and you could hardly call her a "fat lump"

From that picture she clearly isn't fit for the purpose of anything that involves being fit... but there are more delicate ways to describe that.

Comsatangel · Post by **Comsatangel** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:25 pm

If that is the body shape which is considered fat these days, it's no wonder that girls as young as eight years old are already developing eating disorders.

Colston · Post by **Colston** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:27 pm

Comsatangel wrote:If that is the body shape which is considered fat these days, it's no wonder that girls as young as eight years old are already developing eating disorders.

Not so much fat... but certainly unfit.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:14 pm

Is it me, or does she look nicer when she is wearing the headscarf, as opposed to handling the headscarf as if it is a bit of dirt ?

Also, a bit of modesty (like she was photographed in Iran) is far more suitable to her than that unflattering photo in the Sun.

I suppose if you get paid for a story, don't be surprised if you get taken advantage of.

Actually, I wish the Sun photographed her as she would have looked in military gear and with a gun, or would that conflict with the "nickers" strapline .. and trying to play on her femininity against the "nasty" "uncivilised" Iranians {yes, I am being sarcastic}