George Galloway Vs The British Nazi

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:14 pm

Exactly.

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:26 pm

Incidentally I have put that audio clip on YouTube, along with all my other Galloway highlights (user name "nekokate") and I've credited Faceless for the capture. I think it's important a lot of people hear it.

Post by **faceless** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm

nekokate wrote:Isn't this just degenerating into an argument over semantics? I think we all agree that the caller was a vicious piece of shit... why not leave it at that?

I think it's an important point - why should those who are against nazis use the same tactics as they do? I prefer to point out the flaws in their argument than treat them as sub-human.

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:42 pm

That is really melodramatic.

The Neo-nazi's want people of various races, sexualities and cultures gassed to death in their millions.

George insulted someone because he was angry. There is no equivalence whatsoever.

I for one would have called him worse things than 'animal'

Post by **faceless** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:47 pm

til661 wrote:That is really melodramatic.

go on then, suggest a better method that doesn't leave you looking like just as much of a foamer.

Post by **faceless** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:48 pm

nekokate wrote:Incidentally I have put that audio clip on YouTube, along with all my other Galloway highlights (user name "nekokate") and I've credited Faceless for the capture. I think it's important a lot of people hear it.

nice one kate - I'm sure it will get a lot of hits over time

til661 · Post by **til661** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:56 pm

"George insulted someone because he was angry"

This is my main point. If he had written a speech or an article which used this language i would agree with your premise, but he didn't. He said it in the heat of the moment, quite clearly a different thing from the deliberate hatred put out by these people. When i said i would have called him worse, i again meant in the moment, if you'll notice i haven't actually used any obscenities in this thread because i have had time to think about it. there is is the difference.

And of course you are right about rebutting them point by point, absolutely.

luke · Post by **luke** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:27 pm

GG_Fan wrote:racist pigs .. though that's probably insulting the pigs .. Though that's another animal analogy.

yeah, bang out of order, pigs are quite intelligent

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:13 pm

faceless wrote:why should those who are against nazis use the same tactics as they do? I prefer to point out the flaws in their argument than treat them as sub-human.

But when I call a Nazi a despicable animal, I'm not using a "tactic", I'm speaking my mind. I don't care what propaganda value my words carry, I just say what I see.

Post by **faceless** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:26 pm

Maybe I'm just getting old...