Seaman Faye Turney....

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:23 pm

She should put that headscarf on eBay. I'd bid for it and wear it with pride

harry perkins · Post by **harry perkins** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:32 pm

GG_Fan wrote:Is it me, or does she look nicer when she is wearing the headscarf, as opposed to handling the headscarf as if it is a bit of dirt ?

Its not just you, that is actually a very good point.

popinjay · Post by **popinjay** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:55 pm

faceless wrote:
Comsatangel wrote:Mind you, I wouldn't have said that to their faces!!
haha yeah - perhaps best not to. I saw a thing about soldiers in some pub in Aldershot and they were stapling beermats to their own foreheads...

The army. Be The Best.

I thought George was funny when talking about her weight. If she was upset by it, I'm sure the vast wad of cash she made from selling her story will comfort her.

major.tom · Post by **major.tom** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:59 am

nekokate wrote:I wasn't impressed when he called her a fat lump that's not fit for purpose. For all he knows she might be able to run a mile and a half in 12 minutes.

I thought he went over the top with his criticism of her fitness. He was unusualy aggressive on the subject, I thought, and was a bit out of character. I expect blow-hards like Bill O'Reilly to shout down opponents like this; not GG.

I saw the full length pictures of her from The Sun and you could hardly call her a "fat lump"

Does her pose strike anyone else as at least a bit offensive? I detect hints of racism. It doesn't appear to be just any old rag they had at hand -- the design appears quite intricate. But she holds it as you would a dirty nappy. So what can be so revolting about it?

Perhaps I read too much into it.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:16 am

major.tom wrote:Does her pose strike anyone else as at least a bit offensive? I detect hints of racism. It doesn't appear to be just any old rag they had at hand -- the design appears quite intricate. But she holds it as you would a dirty nappy. So what can be so revolting about it?

I agree .. and you are probably spot on. This was the message being conveyed .. not just by the Sun, but by the BBC where I read this report : https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6553033.stm

i.e. anyone who wears a headscarf automatically becomes a has-been .. and you need to rip it off all women to liberate them -- i.e. racism and a form of totalitarianism : "you can wear what we want you to wear, e.g. mini-skirts .. but don't even think of a headscarf"

nekokate · Post by **nekokate** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:07 pm

Of course the pose was offensive and racist - it's The Sun.

About headscarves, didn't loads of white, working-class women in the 40's - 60's used to wear them out and about and nobody batted an eyelid? And lots of older women still do. It must be more about who's under the scarf...

Colston · Post by **Colston** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:54 pm

nekokate wrote:Of course the pose was offensive and racist - it's The Sun.

About headscarves, didn't loads of white, working-class women in the 40's - 60's used to wear them out and about and nobody batted an eyelid? And lots of older women still do. It must be more about who's under the scarf...

Like you said... there is a racist undertone to this. Those cowering in fear and intolerance need symbols to transmit their message... head coverings are the symbol de jour.

Mandy · Post by **Mandy** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:56 am

Regarding headgear & racism :

https://rawstory.com/news/2007/NY_Times_ ... _0414.html

However, Wright wonders, "Do African-Americans get more protection than Muslim Americans?"

"In a speech last year before the Conservative Political Action Conference, Coulter used the word 'raghead,'" Wright continues. "This is a dual-use slur, applied to both Arabs and Muslims, but she was talking about an Iranian, so presumably she was focusing on the religious dimension (consistent with her post-9/11 advice that we 'invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.') The word raghead -- whose only function is to denigrate -- seems as legitimately offensive to Muslims as Imus' utterance was to blacks. The difference is that Coulter didn't apologize."